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	<title>Comments on: HERVs: zombie target practice for immunity</title>
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		<title>By: Cotch dot net</title>
		<link>http://www.iayork.com/MysteryRays/2008/04/30/hervs-zombie-target-practice-for-immunity/comment-page-1/#comment-5228</link>
		<dc:creator>Cotch dot net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 17:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Molecular and Cell Biology Carnival #2...&lt;/strong&gt;

Welcome to the second Carnival of Molecular and Cell Biology! ...</description>
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<p>Welcome to the second Carnival of Molecular and Cell Biology! &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mystery Rays from Outer Space - Meddling with things mankind is not meant to understand. Also, pictures of my kids &#187; More HERVs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mystery Rays from Outer Space - Meddling with things mankind is not meant to understand. Also, pictures of my kids &#187; More HERVs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 03:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: iayork</title>
		<link>http://www.iayork.com/MysteryRays/2008/04/30/hervs-zombie-target-practice-for-immunity/comment-page-1/#comment-3549</link>
		<dc:creator>iayork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 17:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Do you think this would really work in general? I am sure you know that in bone marrow transplantation, graft-versus-host disease has an important role in clearing the tumorâ€¦&lt;/em&gt;

It seems pretty clear this isn&#039;t a universal solution, because only a fraction of tumours upregulate any kind of HERV proteins.  A reasonable fraction upregulate the HERV-K groups, but since normal tissues also have some HERV-K expression also, this is probably a suboptimal target.  The HERV-E are a more exciting target, but they also seem to be present only in a smallish subset of tumours; perhaps not much more than the clear cell variant of kidney tumour, or perhaps a few more than that.  

Still, it is an intriguing idea, and if there is a solution to the potential autoimmunity issue the HERVs might make useful targets for a fair number of tumours types.

&lt;em&gt;I was wondering whether you would be interesting in hosting, or submitting this article to, the Molecular and Cell biology blog carnival.&lt;/em&gt;

Thanks for the reminder.  I will submit something to the carnival, maybe this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Do you think this would really work in general? I am sure you know that in bone marrow transplantation, graft-versus-host disease has an important role in clearing the tumorâ€¦</em></p>
<p>It seems pretty clear this isn&#8217;t a universal solution, because only a fraction of tumours upregulate any kind of HERV proteins.  A reasonable fraction upregulate the HERV-K groups, but since normal tissues also have some HERV-K expression also, this is probably a suboptimal target.  The HERV-E are a more exciting target, but they also seem to be present only in a smallish subset of tumours; perhaps not much more than the clear cell variant of kidney tumour, or perhaps a few more than that.  </p>
<p>Still, it is an intriguing idea, and if there is a solution to the potential autoimmunity issue the HERVs might make useful targets for a fair number of tumours types.</p>
<p><em>I was wondering whether you would be interesting in hosting, or submitting this article to, the Molecular and Cell biology blog carnival.</em></p>
<p>Thanks for the reminder.  I will submit something to the carnival, maybe this one.</p>
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		<title>By: iayork</title>
		<link>http://www.iayork.com/MysteryRays/2008/04/30/hervs-zombie-target-practice-for-immunity/comment-page-1/#comment-3018</link>
		<dc:creator>iayork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 01:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I haven&#039;t followed it closely, I&#039;ve been skeptical about the HERV/MS connection (as I mention in the post).  The Antony et al paper you mention has made me less skeptical, but I&#039;m still far from convinced.

In particular, epidemiology hasn&#039;t consistently supported a connection (for example, Ruprecht K, Gronen F, Sauter M, Best B, Rieckmann P, Mueller-Lantzsch N (2008) Lack of immune responses against multiple sclerosis-associated retrovirus/human endogenous retrovirus W in patients with multiple sclerosis. J Neurovirol 14:143â€“151.) Without epidemiological support the proposed biological mechanisms are less exciting.  (That said, I&#039;m aware that the epidemiology in this situation is particularly tricky, and that there is some epidemiological support out there.)  

In any case, the MSRVs are from a W-group HERV, while most interest in HERVs as tumor antigens has focused on HERV-K and (here) HERK-E.  As I mentioned, the HERV-E group has very restricted tissue expression, making it a potentially more specific target even than the HERV-K, where you&#039;re looking for relative differences in expression rather than an on/off situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I haven&#8217;t followed it closely, I&#8217;ve been skeptical about the HERV/MS connection (as I mention in the post).  The Antony et al paper you mention has made me less skeptical, but I&#8217;m still far from convinced.</p>
<p>In particular, epidemiology hasn&#8217;t consistently supported a connection (for example, Ruprecht K, Gronen F, Sauter M, Best B, Rieckmann P, Mueller-Lantzsch N (2008) Lack of immune responses against multiple sclerosis-associated retrovirus/human endogenous retrovirus W in patients with multiple sclerosis. J Neurovirol 14:143â€“151.) Without epidemiological support the proposed biological mechanisms are less exciting.  (That said, I&#8217;m aware that the epidemiology in this situation is particularly tricky, and that there is some epidemiological support out there.)  </p>
<p>In any case, the MSRVs are from a W-group HERV, while most interest in HERVs as tumor antigens has focused on HERV-K and (here) HERK-E.  As I mentioned, the HERV-E group has very restricted tissue expression, making it a potentially more specific target even than the HERV-K, where you&#8217;re looking for relative differences in expression rather than an on/off situation.</p>
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		<title>By: CAE</title>
		<link>http://www.iayork.com/MysteryRays/2008/04/30/hervs-zombie-target-practice-for-immunity/comment-page-1/#comment-3015</link>
		<dc:creator>CAE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 00:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course the problem with targeting something as ubiquitous as ERVs is that you risk some kind of autoimmune reaction. There is &lt;a href=&quot;http://vwxynot.blogspot.com/2007/07/hervs-and-multiple-sclerosis-part-2.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;increasing evidence&lt;/a&gt; that ERV reactivation is behind diseases like MS, for instance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course the problem with targeting something as ubiquitous as ERVs is that you risk some kind of autoimmune reaction. There is <a href="http://vwxynot.blogspot.com/2007/07/hervs-and-multiple-sclerosis-part-2.html" rel="nofollow">increasing evidence</a> that ERV reactivation is behind diseases like MS, for instance.</p>
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		<title>By: steppen wolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>steppen wolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 23:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the post - and the topic. Do you think this would really work in general? I am sure you know that in bone marrow transplantation, graft-versus-host disease has an important role in clearing the tumor...

I was wondering whether you would be interesting in hosting, or &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogcarnival.com/bc/submit_3935.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;submitting this article&lt;/a&gt; to, the Molecular and Cell biology blog carnival. 

If you are...drop me a line!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the post &#8211; and the topic. Do you think this would really work in general? I am sure you know that in bone marrow transplantation, graft-versus-host disease has an important role in clearing the tumor&#8230;</p>
<p>I was wondering whether you would be interesting in hosting, or <a href="http://blogcarnival.com/bc/submit_3935.html" rel="nofollow">submitting this article</a> to, the Molecular and Cell biology blog carnival. </p>
<p>If you are&#8230;drop me a line!</p>
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