Comments on: More measles and vaccination

By: iayork

iayork — Thu, 27 Aug 2009 18:41:33 +0000

Hi, Jon. This is a common lie of the anti-vaccine loons, promulgated mainly (I believe) by the whale to guy. If you look at his graphs and then compare them to the references he claims he took the graphs from, you’ll find that the claims you’re parroting here are flat-out lies. The references he himself cites are not even close to the charts he shows — there is no relationship between the reference numbers and his charts; he simply made up the charts and offered the references as a fig-leaf, knowing that credulous people like you wouldn’t bother checking. In fact the references he cites perfectly support the fact that measles incidence hardly dropped until the vaccine was introduced — certainly nowhere near a 98% drop.

By: jon ruh

jon ruh — Thu, 27 Aug 2009 18:36:28 +0000

Yes, if only the entire graphs were included. Instead the author chooses to leave out the data showing how high measles cases were long before vaccination was introduced. Measles cases had decreased by 95% before vaccination was used.

http://www.soilandhealth.org/02/0201hyglibcat/020132sinclair/vaccinaion.htm

There is an explanation of the type of research fraud the author uses. It’s much like taking a picture and cropping out information until the picture tells the story you want it to tell.

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By: Cath@VWXYNot?

Cath@VWXYNot? — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:23:58 +0000

Great post. There is a mumps outbreak in Southern BC at the moment, which has been tracked to a local religious community that does not vaccinate its kids. Schools go back soon and they are predicting a further jump in cases. CBC story here

By: Lu-Ann

Lu-Ann — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:03:03 +0000

Craziness! I have started teaching General Biology at an area college and at least once a semester someone tells me they are not vaccinating their child because vaccines are bad and cause autism. The anti-vaccine loons have gotten a lot of popular press lately–and the lay public doesn’t know any better!

By: Bob O'H

Bob O'H — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 18:06:30 +0000

It’s important to note that for measles, which is probably the most contagious disease known to man,

Eh? I thought that was stupdity.

Thanks for this post and the last – I think the graphs are the most effective counters to the anti-vaccers that I’ve seen.