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	<title>Comments on: Immunodominance: Not so much?</title>
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	<description>Meddling with things mankind is not meant to understand.  Also, pictures of my kids</description>
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		<title>By: iayork</title>
		<link>http://www.iayork.com/MysteryRays/2009/01/20/immunodominance-not-so-much/comment-page-1/#comment-13853</link>
		<dc:creator>iayork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;Maybe immunodominance depends on the availability of an antigen.&lt;/em&gt;

Peer, for what it&#039;s worth (with the very limited examples at hand) the differential immunodominance associated with route of infection hasn&#039;t involved viral genes that are particularly differentially expressed (though that&#039;s also a field that could be much tidier than it is).  As a more general statement, though, I agree that antigen availability is a likely cause, but I lean more toward differential antigen processing in different tissues (since some of the proteases involved in epitope generation do have different expression in different tissues).  But there&#039;s really little or no data to support that yet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Maybe immunodominance depends on the availability of an antigen.</em></p>
<p>Peer, for what it&#8217;s worth (with the very limited examples at hand) the differential immunodominance associated with route of infection hasn&#8217;t involved viral genes that are particularly differentially expressed (though that&#8217;s also a field that could be much tidier than it is).  As a more general statement, though, I agree that antigen availability is a likely cause, but I lean more toward differential antigen processing in different tissues (since some of the proteases involved in epitope generation do have different expression in different tissues).  But there&#8217;s really little or no data to support that yet.</p>
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		<title>By: iayork</title>
		<link>http://www.iayork.com/MysteryRays/2009/01/20/immunodominance-not-so-much/comment-page-1/#comment-13851</link>
		<dc:creator>iayork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John, yes, the concept of immunodominance as a form of safety on the part of a T cell is a reasonable one.  One issue is that where people have investigated causes of immunodominance, they don&#039;t always point at the T cells.  In some cases, it seems that T cell repertoire, and/or T cell behaviour, is one underlying cause of immunodominance.  But often, research ends up pointing at the other side of the equation, at the antigen and the antigen-presenting cell as guiding immunodominance.  Since APC don&#039;t do a lot of information processing in selecting their presented antigens (it would be highly inefficient) this kind of argues against the sort of engineering tradeoff you&#039;re talking about, being the &lt;em&gt;sole&lt;/em&gt; cause of immunodominance.  

But I think that as a general statement we don&#039;t understand relative importance of T cell vs. APC (and other factors) in establishing immunodominance hierarchies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, yes, the concept of immunodominance as a form of safety on the part of a T cell is a reasonable one.  One issue is that where people have investigated causes of immunodominance, they don&#8217;t always point at the T cells.  In some cases, it seems that T cell repertoire, and/or T cell behaviour, is one underlying cause of immunodominance.  But often, research ends up pointing at the other side of the equation, at the antigen and the antigen-presenting cell as guiding immunodominance.  Since APC don&#8217;t do a lot of information processing in selecting their presented antigens (it would be highly inefficient) this kind of argues against the sort of engineering tradeoff you&#8217;re talking about, being the <em>sole</em> cause of immunodominance.  </p>
<p>But I think that as a general statement we don&#8217;t understand relative importance of T cell vs. APC (and other factors) in establishing immunodominance hierarchies.</p>
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		<title>By: John Kelsey</title>
		<link>http://www.iayork.com/MysteryRays/2009/01/20/immunodominance-not-so-much/comment-page-1/#comment-13569</link>
		<dc:creator>John Kelsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 14:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is probably obvious, but immunodominance makes sense as a kind of engineering tradeoff, right?  I mean, if we assume that each T-cell receptor has some probability, P, of attacking some healthy host cells by mistake if T-cells carrying it go through clonal expansion, then we&#039;d want to minimize the number of different TCRs that went through clonal expansion.  And I guess having more diversity in the tissue that&#039;s had the infection makes sense in the same way--since the larger diversity of T-cells are isolated, they have less chance of making trouble for the rest of the body, and the mechanisms for T-cell tolerance of self would be in force within that tissue.    

Assuming T-cells (and maybe B-cells, too) are isolated in your tissues to prevent too much diversity of TCRs in your body, and assuming this is a mechanism that prevents autoimmune disease, wouldn&#039;t we expect to see some cases of physical damage to a tissue leading to autoimmune disease?  (I guess this would work sort-of like damage to an eyeball leading to autoimmune attack on the other eyeball, only in this case, the injury and the autoimmune attack would be for different kinds of tissue.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is probably obvious, but immunodominance makes sense as a kind of engineering tradeoff, right?  I mean, if we assume that each T-cell receptor has some probability, P, of attacking some healthy host cells by mistake if T-cells carrying it go through clonal expansion, then we&#8217;d want to minimize the number of different TCRs that went through clonal expansion.  And I guess having more diversity in the tissue that&#8217;s had the infection makes sense in the same way&#8211;since the larger diversity of T-cells are isolated, they have less chance of making trouble for the rest of the body, and the mechanisms for T-cell tolerance of self would be in force within that tissue.    </p>
<p>Assuming T-cells (and maybe B-cells, too) are isolated in your tissues to prevent too much diversity of TCRs in your body, and assuming this is a mechanism that prevents autoimmune disease, wouldn&#8217;t we expect to see some cases of physical damage to a tissue leading to autoimmune disease?  (I guess this would work sort-of like damage to an eyeball leading to autoimmune attack on the other eyeball, only in this case, the injury and the autoimmune attack would be for different kinds of tissue.)</p>
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		<title>By: Peer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 16:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe immunodominance depends on the availability of an antigen. So that differential expression of a viral protein (and the resulting antigen) depends on tissue specific factors or the nature of the viral infection within the tissue (brain vs. blood e.g.) and thus differences in immunodominance occur. Just a thought...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe immunodominance depends on the availability of an antigen. So that differential expression of a viral protein (and the resulting antigen) depends on tissue specific factors or the nature of the viral infection within the tissue (brain vs. blood e.g.) and thus differences in immunodominance occur. Just a thought&#8230;</p>
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